感謝Terry幫我聽CS~

昨天去了中大Info Day,

去完之後可以說是撥開雲霧見青天,

不過還有疑慮如何取捨選擇.....


去中大的時間比想像中短,

7:40出門,好像不用8:40就到了,然後Shuttle Bus需時又比想像中少

如果讀在崇基校園讀更是不需要坐車.....

 

第一站︰9:00,Information Engineering

作為水抱科的其中一個可能性,而Terry去幫我聽CS/CE,所以我就來聽了

太早,一開始得兩個人 >:D

得到的主要訊息是,CUHK的IE比CS/CE好;Maths不太好不需要擔心;IE的出路比CS/CE好,因為網絡市場比電腦市場大,至少在香港。

所以如果在IE/CS/CE中選....應該還是會選IE

 

第二站︰10:30,哲學系 Philosophy

感覺很頹很殘 =▽=" 一個教授都沒有,只有一個博士生在一間很小的資料室裡講解Powerpoint.....

不過也可以問她問題

基本上對哲學系的認知沒有什麼改變,不過更肯定了自己也喜歡哲學,而且不太擔心讀不來...

 

於是,A3的水抱科現在在IE和哲學之間不知如何選擇...

讀IE,可能比較舒服和有趣,畢竟都是科技東西...

讀哲學,可能比較辛苦,不過也可以苦中作樂,而且讀完後思維能力會提升... 但擔心會不會真的讀不來要在Year 2轉走,浪費了一年

 

第三站︰11:30,社會學系 Sociology

.....超多人,整個Lecture Hall爆滿,有人要坐地下,還是不夠坐,有人要等下一場.....

來了個很正的教授演講,講得很精采和吸引

得到一條很重要的訊息︰大學的1st Degree如果讀一些能培養思考能力的科目,會比讀一些專門科目來得有益

我得到啟發,十分認同

社會學系的Priority因此大幅提升到去與Psychology相若的水平

 

第四站︰吃飯

........................

往年Info Day,基本上都只有AL的學生,所以我想應該不會像今年這麼多人

今年除了有AL的學生,還有一大堆沒有被CE淘汰的334學生,有中四有中五

加起來就是中四中五中六中七......

結果真的超超超超超超超超超超超超超超超超多人

所以Canteen都爆滿.............

排隊排半小時才有飯吃,而且都是很多飯賣光被逼無奈選其他飯的情況 =_=

約了Terry,辛苦你了 (鞠躬

 

第五站︰心理學系 Psychology

2:00有一個Talk,我心理這應該也跟Sociology一樣多人,於是1:50去到

結果門口人說︰不好意思,裡面滿了,請等下一場

我問︰現在那場是幾點的?

門口人︰2:00

=_____=

喂,憑什麼提早這麼多開始囧囧囧囧囧囧囧

還要已經爆滿 =口= Orz

他建議我去找Professor / 學生問...

好吧 =_= 不然我也不知道能幹什麼

而且沒有多久,又有一大堆人開始排3:00的那場= =

痴線....... 為什麼會這麼受歡迎 =_=

本先打算去找Professor問

但怎麼也找不到310室 =_=

結果先找學生問

啊這個學生長得真好看 (被巴 (注︰晚上跟肥唐提起這個人,他竟然說有可能他認識!! 他說如果是她,應該是有參加過JSSE)

問了心理學讀什麼,適合什麼人讀,讀得辛不辛苦

先不說結果,後面一併說

之後終於找到310室在哪.... 又問了Professor上述問題

不過感覺這個Professor雖然很平易近人,但怎麼看都不樣Professor = = 只像師奶

結果答上述問題好像還不如剛才那位美女學生...

之後出來再問多一位學生上述問題...

好,結果如下︰

1. 讀什麼?

一致同一答案,也跟認知的差不多,所以沒有什麼特別

2. 適合什麼人讀?

三個答案。美女學生︰喜歡思考的人讀;Professor︰不怕跟人合作,因為這科很多合作Project;另一位學生︰不怕對著人

結論︰後兩者我自問不太好,如果碰上一些比較....的人,那我真的會火 -_-

3. 辛苦嗎?

三個答案。美女學生︰很辛苦,比AL辛苦,不過她覺得很開心;Professor︰科科都辛苦 (即沒有說過);另一位學生︰不辛苦,很多空閒時間

結論︰ =_=

整體結論︰被Sociology比了下去。我覺得我讀Sociology的過程會比較享受,雖然對Psychology仍然有興趣,但對Sociology也不是沒有。所以綜合整體,Sociology會比較高分,但仍保留最後選擇Psycho的可能性。

 

第六站︰日本研究學系 Japanese Studies

其實之前對這個學系一無所知,一直以為是Interview看很重,而且本身日語要很好的才能入

今天去問了才發現完全不是那麼回事.....

1. 日語能力

當然,本身就好的當然最好,但也接受完全不懂日文進來的,因為Year1就是密集式全學日文....(Professor︰一星期12課,每課一小時。其實比我想像中少很多.....這樣每天才兩小時不是嗎= =)

目標是一年之內達到3級~2級的水平。我對自己學習語言的能力相當有信心,想當年我學普通話拼音,一晚就學會了... 雖然也多得母親教導有方

2. Interview看很重

根據Professor,會有Interview,但不計分= = 真的嗎...

豬潤說不要信......嘛我覺得我還是會去in,Soci也一樣說到明不計分但我還是會去in

或者我再問清楚.....

3. 課程

我覺得很吸引,Year1完全學日文,爽;然後有一年在日本,必修的,不用怕去不了;課程還有研究日、韓、中劇集之類的......

4. 出路

我本來又覺得讀完這科真的不知道能幹什麼,又沒有Sociology那樣的思維優勢

不過又聽Professor說,很多打算/本身跟日本有聯繫的公司(主要是日系企業)會主動來找人.....

不過這個我還打算再搞清楚

結論︰日研的Priority超大幅提升至與Sociology相若地位

 

最終結論︰

1. Sociology v.s. Psychology

這個在上面也有提及,現在偏向Sociology

2. 日本研究 v.s. 上面1的結果

日研︰

想讀的原因 ---

- 興趣濃厚

擔心 ---

- 實質上興趣未必像相像中濃厚。解決方法︰諮詢多一點關於課程方面

- 出路沒有Professor說的那麼好。解決方法︰同上

上面1的結果︰

想讀的原因 ---

- 提升個人能力

- 較安穩的學系

被日研比下去的原因 ---

- 興趣較少

- 與自身相容性可能比想像中低

 

昨晚跟一些朋友聚餐,得到的意見︰

馬可︰提出了我未必對日研的全部課程有興趣這一點

阿水︰選有動力讀的那一科,因為大學很靠自己,有動力才會讀得好。

 

結論︰我先再搞清楚日研的課程和出路。如果都是正面的結果,如無意外我應該會選日研。

3. 水抱科︰IE?哲學?

目前比較傾向IE.... 主要是覺得哲學雖然能培養能力,但憑感覺我好像覺得IE比較有興趣,

我雖然喜歡哲學,但讀得那麼深入又未必是我所期望的... 知道牽涉很多哲學史,這未必是我所希望的

再加上看完 ef 後我又覺得探討「真理」好像太自大... 還是朝著人生意義前進比較好

那哲學剩下來的可能就只是思考能力... 考慮到未必讀得好,交通又不便,又殘,看來我還是讀IE比較好...

 

 

希望大家不要吝嗇自己的意見 ^^"

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  • 楊霄
  • I planned to major in Sociology, and now I'm minoring in Philosophy, so here's some advice based on what I've read. Note that what I've read applies to American colleges, and it might be slightly different in HK.

    For you, I think Philosophy > Psychology > Sociology.

    They're basically very similar subjects (probably more similar than you might expect now). Philosophy is the most qualitative while Sociology is the most quantitative; Philosophy is the most abstract while Sociology is the most materialistic.

    If you want to study Philosophy, you will almost certainly need to spend most of your time on the History of Philosophy. This is because almost everything you can think of has already been written down by some philosophers, maybe over two thousand years ago. However, I don't see this as a bad thing. In fact, I think studying its History is the most efficient and easiest way of actually understanding Philosophy.

    Note that for Sociology, a lot of time will spent on statistics, and the rest will be spent on psychology and philosophy. It's an interdisciplinary subject. If you hate statistics, then you might just take psychology or philosophy. However, there is an advantage in studying Sociology if you are only interested in social psychology and in political philosophy - you will not need to learn a lot of the subjective-oriented (individual) materials in psychology and philosophy. I think the opposite is true for you, though. Basically, if you're interested in Karl Marx, Max Weber, Michel Foucault, etc, sociology might be better; if you're interested in Sigmund Freud, Bertrand Russell, Jacques Lacan, etc., psychology or philosophy might be better.


  • 多謝意見 >:D

    Sociology is the most quantitative <-- 沒想過是這樣 @@" 反而有聽Psychology的人說需要Statistics方面的知識... 但沒聽Sociology的人提起過任何Statistics方面的話題
    你的第4段我很同意,不過這正是我擔心的 - 就算讀懂了,我是否真的有興趣呢?反而Sociology因為是很貼近生活話題的,可能會更有興趣研究也說不定..
    The opposite is true for you, though. 我也同意.. Political philosophy確實沒興趣,但social psychology我不肯定,或者說我不清楚social psychology讀什麼。
    然後後面那堆人名全都不懂XDDD

    總結來說︰
    你的意見最有參考價值的是指出他們比我想像中相近,這是我不知道也沒有想過的... 因為哲學系跟另外兩個是不同學院,沒有人質問我很直覺地覺得它們很不同....
    而且其實我又覺得哲學的研究對象跟另外兩科很不同,為什麼會說它們相似呢..?
    其實我有點覺得你所認識的sociology跟我聽回來的sociology有不小的分別,有待搞清楚 D:

    よあけ 於 2010/10/10 15:05 回覆

  • 楊霄
  • In the U.S., Sociology is usually classified as a Social Science, and Philosophy is a Humanities subject. Thus, they are in different "departments" too. However, most people who take Sociology also take a minor in Philosophy. This is because Sociology (and Psychology) is basically built on Philosophy. They are all subjects based on the study of society, in general. At the introductory level, they might seem different, but in the last century they have become increasingly integrated in terms of their fundamental theory. This was, in fact, one of the main observations of Michel Foucault in his book The Archaeology of Knowledge. Hence, an influential sociologist or psychologist is almost always an influential philosopher as well, simply because when he changes the theory of one field, he also influences the other fields.

    I looked at the CUHK Sociology course list (http://www.cuhk.edu.hk/soc/www/courseoffer.html) just to make sure, and it's similar to what I expected. About two-fifths of it focuses on research methods, many of which are based on statistics.

    To differentiate sociology and psychology, some people say that sociology is focused on the group (structure), while psychology is focused on the individual (agency). The area between them is social psychology, which we can further separate into two parts. Social psychology in sociology is focused on the study of groups interact, both internally and externally. Social psychology in psychology is focused on how individuals are affected by groups. Basically, they are very similar, and both are focused on the fundamental debate of "structure vs. agency". Thus, if you want to study one subject, you will also need to learn ideas from the other subject. And of course, all the qualitative parts of this debate can be regarded as philosophy, or perhaps even linguistics.
  • 嗯....的確讓我了解更多Sociology,感激不盡 >:D

    よあけ 於 2010/10/10 19:52 回覆

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